They might be implementing a group forum discussion feature similar to JWN in order to facilitate their remaining band of supporters and defenders who suddenly feel alienated from this site. That would explain the long time down for maintenance. It also is circumstancial evidence that perhaps the donations and volunteer applications have dried up somewhat where shutting the site down for a couple of days wouldn't have too much of an adverse effect. They also have a new Vice President to appoint.
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What will happen when JWActivists goes back online?
by okage inthe aawa website jwactivists is down for repairs or whatever, so here is my prediction of what it will be when it comes up:.
* the site will have removed all mention of jwn.
* the site will have revised their own history.. * the site will have a registry that will be contingent on confirmation of identity in relation to the wts, but will also limit the function and communication of naysayers of john cedars' only working organization on earth.. * privacy will not be addressed.
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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!
by Sic Semper Tyrannis ini am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
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John Hoyle (JuanViejo2) helped set up jwsurvey for cedars and does all the technical stuff for him there.
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Is AAWA a non profit? Or is the application still in consideration?
by wha happened? ini've heard both.
i dunno.
which one is it?.
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There can get into a heap of trouble if they advertise as non-profit when they are not yet approved. For tax purposes they'd likely have to claim all donations as gifts or gratuities, and pay the appropriate taxes until they qualify as a non-profit. Don't know if they can retro-actively claim donations as tax-exempt after they are approved as non-profit. For the donator, you also cannot claim a deduction since what you gave was a gift, just like if you gave someone on the street $100.
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Is AAWA a non profit? Or is the application still in consideration?
by wha happened? ini've heard both.
i dunno.
which one is it?.
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A poster who has experience in running a non-profit previously mentioned in another thread that it takes 2-12 months for the US tax authority to approve your entity as a non-profit. As the AAWA was incorporated in March, the earliest they can possibly receive this status is in mid-May.
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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!
by Sic Semper Tyrannis ini am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
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Good point, wha happened?. For someone in his position, a lawsuit is the last thing he would want to initiate, either personally or through AAWA. Does he not realise that he will be subpoenaed to the court in Arizona, and be subject to cross-examination? Does he not realise that his long protected identity would be revealed in such proceedings? So for him to tell Simon people 'have been sued for less' with regards to the AAWA - JWN feud is a very foolish threat to make, especially with his own legal ambiguities.
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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!
by Sic Semper Tyrannis ini am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
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He used the time zone thing with every debate that he sought a convenient way out of. In the aforementioned 'Falklands' thread, once he berated me and a few others that he considered as my defenders for keeping him up an hour past what was his normal bedtime, acerbated by the time zone difference from what he was used to. Then the next day he warned everyone what he was going to be away from the thread for some time, and that he couldn't 'intervene' should he be 'needed'. I thought to myself, 'who does this guy think he is? The debate cannot possibly go on without his input?' While I recognised his views on the Malvinas from a British perspective, that type of blatant arrogance and self-importance rubbed me the wrong way.
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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!
by Sic Semper Tyrannis ini am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
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"Please send donations to a company run by an anonymous guy somewhere in Croatia and the guy who swears he lives in his house"
Careful... As cedars said, people have been sued for less...!
I got cheeky a few days ago and read a few of John Cedars twitter feeds. He got cross with a newsfeed that he claimed was 'anti-Croat'. That pretty much gave it away for me. Either Croatia or the former Yugoslavia.
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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!
by Sic Semper Tyrannis ini am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
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So, does Nathan Natas get an invite back? It seemed that cedars' objection was the only obstacle getting and keeping him banned.
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AAWA has caused divisions and has lost the opportunity to be effective
by NoRegrets inhere's the thing,.
the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.
period.
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So we should just ignore possible illegal activity just because they are committed to bringing down the WT? How is is legally actionable to accuse people using a pseudonym of criminal conduct? Are you suggesting slander or libel? Whatever his name is, he's going to have a hard time convincing a court that his reputation is tarnished and that he cannot find a job because someone on an internet forum said "John Cedars" might be guilty of a felony. If that were the case most members here on JWN (you included) would have cases pending against them. Not looking for a pat on the back. I'd rather you do not touch me at all. And if you want to spit on me, then you can count on an equally repulsive response.
okage - Nowhere in my last post did I include 'Arizona' or 'Commission'. I did use 'ACC'. Sorry about being repetitive, but when the tired old excuses of 'you are not an attorney' come up and I am asked to divulge my sources, I feel somewhat compelled to bring up the ACC. So far, no one has brought anything from an authority that is contrary to or contradicts what the stated position of the ACC is. What would be really helpful is if someone could get a comment from Richard Kelly, the AAWA's legal team coordinator and the incorporator of those documents. Maybe we'd see these comments disappear if he would tell us that no, everything is fine with the use of the pseudonym, and we have checked it out. Just a thought.
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AAWA has caused divisions and has lost the opportunity to be effective
by NoRegrets inhere's the thing,.
the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.
period.
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I feel it is counter productive from some of the AAWA apologists here to continually take what they evidently feel is a higher ground by insulting the credentials and motives of the people who are questioning the legality of using a psuedonym in incorporation documents. The attitude is generally 'Are you an attorney? Then you don't know what you are talking about, so shut up'. I am privy to the email exchange with the ACC and know what questions were asked, and what were the responses. Though the ACC did reiterate that they are not an enforcement agency and do not get involved with legal matters such as determining whether or not criminal actions were committed, they do say the following:
The Commission's constitutional role as a respository is limited to a determination of whether documents meet statuatory requirements for filing.
Thus, as originally filed, the AAWA's documents were deemed satisfactory. That is, until the fact that the president was and is using a pseudonym was brought to their attention, they did not hesitate to mention that this was definitely contrary to their filing requirements.
I hope those who are so adamant in claiming that nothing was done contrary to the ACC's standards are certain in what they claim. They should know, however, that to continually belittle and be combative towards those who have legitimate questions as to the pseudonym issue is only serving to bait us into taking this a step further and filing a complaint as the ACC has already asked one of us to do.